tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7324514968015815431.post7272954798611375428..comments2023-07-05T13:18:44.067+02:00Comments on Written By Fans, For Fans: How Many More Fans Must Suffer At The Hands Of Financial Mismanagement?Matt Daltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07497389609564140556noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7324514968015815431.post-61158611749882995502010-05-26T00:54:12.382+02:002010-05-26T00:54:12.382+02:00Agree Matt, think that your last point sums it up,...Agree Matt, think that your last point sums it up, you do get the feeling they believe no one will be stupid enough to do it again!!Dean @ Footballgambler Bloghttp://www.footballgambler.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7324514968015815431.post-3413436839372694122010-05-25T12:28:52.034+02:002010-05-25T12:28:52.034+02:00Some good points raised there, Dean. Pompey would ...Some good points raised there, Dean. Pompey would most certainly not have been able to prove that. In fact, I am sure I read somewhere that their wage bill at one point was actually higher than their turnover - how a business can be allowed to get to that point is just ludicrous!<br /><br />I think the FA/Premier League would have known a year or two ago when Portsmouth were doing all of their crazy deals with crazy wages that this was likely to happen but they have chosen to ignore the situation completely and, like you say, apportion the blame to the club.<br /><br />The most worrying thing about it is that the FA and Premier League still do not seem even slightly bothered about the situation and are seemingly quite happy for it to happen again.Matt Daltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07497389609564140556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7324514968015815431.post-10846990136983185512010-05-25T02:44:54.392+02:002010-05-25T02:44:54.392+02:00@ The Manager, I think you are probably right, a b...@ The Manager, I think you are probably right, a big club collapsing is probably what it will take to get something done about it.<br /><br />The Satus Quo for me, is running the Prem League in a manner which leaves clubs open to this happening.<br /><br />They will not change the system because of poor little Portsmouth, they've made that very clear already with Scudamore blaming bad admin.<br /><br />Even if Hull are to enter admin they will not be too bothered either, as they are now in the Championship.<br /><br />Look at Leeds, Leicester, Coventry, Norwich, Southampton, I'm sure there are plenty more. The Prem League don't seem bothered about all the clubs that have gone tits up after relegation. <br /><br />They will probably just say that they get the parrachute payments, so get on with it. <br /><br />It must have been a bit humiliating for Scudamore though with Pompey. <br /><br />Another way of looking at it though is, that clubs generally go wrong after been relegated to the Championship, while thats happening the Prem League can wash their hands off it.<br /><br />With Pompey they have had a wake up call, I would say they never imagined a Prem League team would do that with all the TV money they get. <br /><br />It would seem though that Scudamore and Co are treating it as a one off, he can't say he hasn't been warned if it happens again now. <br /><br />Not too sure of the facts about Germany, but I'm sure I have heard that they have to have a solid business plan to prove that they will be finacially viable for the upcoming year before the start of the season. <br /><br />I wouldn't think Portsmouth could have proved that last year.Dean @ Footballgambler bloghttp://www.footballgambler.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7324514968015815431.post-78663483564819045372010-05-24T23:54:45.581+02:002010-05-24T23:54:45.581+02:00I think Southampton's woes actually came from ...I think Southampton's woes actually came from building St Mary's. Once they were relegated from the Premier League they never made it back up. However, your point is extremely valid. The trend throughout English football is very worrying right now.<br /><br />For me, the Premier League has to bear some kind of responsibility for the problems that are occurring lower down in the football league. All of these ridiculous wages being offered at the top level effectively force the lower clubs to give higher wages in order to attract players of sufficient calibre. It is this that is killing the game from the inside.Matt Daltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07497389609564140556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7324514968015815431.post-26179931480878281962010-05-24T23:32:57.038+02:002010-05-24T23:32:57.038+02:00Interesting article. What is most concerning are ...Interesting article. What is most concerning are those clubs in the Football League who either attempt to get into the Premiership and fail, or get relegated from the Premiership and incur big losses as a result (despite the massive parachute payments). Clubs that this has happened to include Southampton, Crystal Palace etc. <br /><br />It is refreshing to see that Blackpool appear to be taking the view that gambling on staying up would be foolish and so are prepared to save the money they earn from promotion (£90 million) and invest in the future (eg making sure their ground has four stands etc). The only problem is many fans (especially lots of those who are short sighted/glory chasers and only started supporting them since they got to the Playoff Final) will demand the club spend. It really puts the board etc in a very difficult position.Matt Greenhttp://alittleextramoneyuk.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7324514968015815431.post-83817403577348712322010-05-24T17:39:46.986+02:002010-05-24T17:39:46.986+02:00My girlfriend is a half German/Iranian girl. She s...My girlfriend is a half German/Iranian girl. She studies Architecture in Darmstadt (where I have lived for 3 years). Wouldn't like to put her name in the public domain mind! <br /><br />Interesting point about Bayern. They are able to generate huge profit from merchandising and marketing etc, more so than other German clubs. The German regulations have certainlly prevented the Bundesliga from becoming a closed shop as in England and most clubs (barring Hannover) remain in favour of leaving it like this.GeoffWorldFootballhttp://www.worldfootballcolumns.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7324514968015815431.post-32420817434360342942010-05-24T15:58:28.189+02:002010-05-24T15:58:28.189+02:00What do you think the FA/FIFA would do if some of ...What do you think the FA/FIFA would do if some of the biggest were to fall?Matt Daltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07497389609564140556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7324514968015815431.post-24365678308425189462010-05-24T15:47:09.426+02:002010-05-24T15:47:09.426+02:00Some great points made guys, but I reckon I disagr...Some great points made guys, but I reckon I disagree with the general conclusion that the status quo will prevail.<br /><br />It will all come crashing down at some point, although it may take a so-called big club (a la Manchester United) to fail before the FA/FIFA take note.<br /><br />Interesting you mention Germany - the Bundesliga were ridiculed for regulating their game - taking a different financial model completely to the EPL.<br /><br />And yet, Bayern Munchen got further in the Champions League this year than English clubs. Certainly food for thought.The Managerhttp://tickabooson.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7324514968015815431.post-78945365212815713082010-05-24T15:41:25.581+02:002010-05-24T15:41:25.581+02:00I guess Alan Sugar is not as daft as I had thought...I guess Alan Sugar is not as daft as I had thought then! You're right, he got it pretty much exactly right. I really do feel things are getting out of hand now though - lessons were not learnt from what happened in Italy back in the 90s and it looks to me like something similar might well be happening in England now. It is just a shame that the fans will have to suffer.<br /><br />What is your girlfriend's name? I might know her.Matt Daltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07497389609564140556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7324514968015815431.post-28731020077890906922010-05-24T14:42:34.186+02:002010-05-24T14:42:34.186+02:00I was reading a while back a little piece about Al...I was reading a while back a little piece about Alan Sugar. It was saying that, when the formation of the EPL was being mooted in the early 90s, he fellt strongly about the Premier League putting away some of its TV money into a trust for emergencies and to help the grass roots etc. He warned that if the Premier League gave all its money to clubs they would just waste it on players' wages. He was pretty much bang on.<br /><br />There must be some way to regulate what clubs do with their money. Afterall they do it in France an Germany.<br /><br />Matt, I saw on your Bio you live in Heppenheim. My girlfriend lives there, small world!GeoffWorldFootballhttp://www.worldfootballcolumns.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7324514968015815431.post-43576569044440787752010-05-24T02:35:11.092+02:002010-05-24T02:35:11.092+02:00You speak a lot of sense Dean and I am inclined to...You speak a lot of sense Dean and I am inclined to agree with the majority of what you have stated there. I do feel that even if a really big club goes the FA and Premier League will still adopt the "it's all their fault" stance once more. This, of course, is correct but it doesn't make it right.Matt Daltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07497389609564140556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7324514968015815431.post-132472489232850112010-05-24T02:26:21.612+02:002010-05-24T02:26:21.612+02:00It is a problem that will no doubt occur again som...It is a problem that will no doubt occur again somewhere soon as well. <br /><br />Look at Cardiff, the next few weeks might well be telling as to the real seriousness of their plight. You can only hope they have not been running the club on the basis that they would be promoted this year.<br /><br />With regard to the wage cap, it would be difficult to implement it, and as you rightly said it would also need to be a worldwide rule.<br /><br />Another problem with reforming the game in this way is the conflicts of interest within the game. Too many people with club interest have too much power within the FA and Premier League and there is probably no real willing to do anything to change the situation.<br /><br />Not sure if he is still at the FA anymore, but could you really see David Gill of Manchester United pushing for a points deduction for clubs losing money? <br /><br />In the past would he have been advising the FA to go for Alex Ferguson as England manager? I somehow doubt it. Just one example of the many conflicts of interest that exsists in football.<br /><br />While the big bucks are still coming in from Sky, who is going to try and water down the Premier League with wage caps and points deductions for bad management? The status quo will just continue. <br /><br />There would appear to be no ideal or easy solution to the problem, and thats why nothing will be done and it will sadly happen again.Dean @ footballgambler bloghttp://www.footballgambler.co.uk/noreply@blogger.com